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Fulda & Debatin: Reproducibility of Results in Medical and Biomedical Research

"Basic and advanced training for researchers should focus much more on self-reflection, openness and a culture of error acceptance."

Well, what do you say to that. Two of Germany’s most influential scientists were caught with bad science. Our heroes are Klaus-Michael Debatin and his former mentee Simone Fulda.

Fulda is currently President of the University of Kiel, prior to that she was Vice-President for Research at the Goethe University of Frankfurt. Debatin used to be Dean of the Medical Faculty and Vice-President for Medicine of the University of Ulm, as well as CEO and Medical Director of the university clinic. He and Fulda sit on the boards of the most important academic institutions and charities in Germany and abroad. Both are Fellows of the German Academy of Sciences, Leopoldina (CVs here and here). Both are Senators of the German Research Council (DFG). Both hold senior positions at the German Cancer Aid (Deutsche Krebshilfe) charity. Fulda also advises the Paul Ehrlich Institute, decides about the fellowships at Alexander von Humboldt Foundation, coordinates regional research investments of the Mercator Research Center Ruhr and the German-Israeli research cooperation of the DFG. She also used to be member of the German Science and Humanities Council (Wissenschaftsrat) and currently chairs the Research Information Committee at the Joint Science Conference, which advices the national and federal state governments.

In a way, a biomedical scientist can’t even fart in Germany without permission from Fulda and Debatin.

Original photo credit: UK Ulm

In 2017-2018, Fulda and Debatin were members of the “Working Group “Quality in Clinical Research” of the DFG Senate Commission on Key Questions in
Clinical Research”
. The group published this White Paper, titled “Reproducibility of Results in Medical and Biomedical Research”, which then informed the DFG policies on research ethics and integrity. It is mostly boring inane text which finds nothing out of order and binds nobody to nothing. But this excerpt is funny, considering who issues this advice:

“Basic and advanced training for researchers should focus much more on self-reflection, openness and a culture of error acceptance. Learning methods for quality improvement should be regarded as an essential feature of a researcher’s continuing professional development.”

Another member of that DFG committee was Christopher Baum, then-president of the Hannover Medical School (MHH), who at exactly that time arrived at the verdict that the trachea transplant experiments by MHH professor Paolo Macchiarini and his acolyte Philipp Jungebluth were ethically unassailable, and issued a decree (on the right) that Jungebluth’s MD dissertation must never be investigated. Baum later resigned over nepotism accusations (read here).

To help Fulda, Debatin, Baum and others to figure out how research reproducibility REALLY works, DFG invited a guest member to their committee: the DFG Senator and University of Marburg professor Roland Lill. As it happens, Lill was just at that time being whitewashed by the DFG for data irregularities in his own papers. Obviously, DFG was intentionally recruiting a certain kind of people with a purpose.

Lill space-time-blot anomaly in Marburg

The biochemistry research lab of professor Roland Lill at the Philipps University Marburg in Germany is a place where space, time and western blot continuum collapses into an anomalous singularity, where paradoxes abound, but only one fact remains certain:  there was never any data manipulation in the lab of this senator of the German Research…

Both Debatin and Fulda are paediatricians by training, Debatin used to be the head of the paediatric oncology at the German Cancer Center (DKFZ) in Heidelberg before he fully moved to Ulm, first as vice-dean, then as dean. Fulda followed him there to become professor of paediatric oncology, before moving to Frankfurt, and then to Kiel, rising with each step, up to her current magnificent rectorship. It is logical Debatin and Fulda hold top positions at the German Society of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, where they sit on the commission for university questions.

But their main speciality is cancer research. They write authoritative books about it of course, like the two volume “Apoptosis and Cancer Therapy“. The idea is to kill cancer by inducing apoptosis pathways, in cancer cells only.

The money which German state invested into Debatin and Fulda is enormous. Here is a press release by the Ulm University Hospital from 2020, about a €4.4 million grant from the DFG (translated):

“The scientists in the Clinical Research Group (KFO 167) are investigating the question of how misguided regulation of apoptosis, the programmed cell death, can lead to diseases. […]

“The funding commitment is a great honor for the clinical research group, which helps to strengthen Ulm’s focus on cancer research,” says Prof. Dr. Klaus-Michael Debatin, spokesman for the group, medical director of the Clinic for Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine and dean of the Medical Faculty. [..] Nationwide, the Ulm group is the only clinical research group that works on apoptosis, which is the technical term for the programmed death of damaged cells. It was created on the basis of Professor Debatin’s many years of work and discoveries on cell death signaling pathways.

“Our goal is to use our findings from basic research to develop improved diagnostics and therapy for cancer,” explains Prof. Dr. Simone Fulda, the scientific leader of the research group.”

Now I will show you with what Debatin and Fulda really blessed the German society and cancer patients.

Let’s start with the journal Oncogene. Fulda and Debatin found a way to kill brain tumours:

C Jennewein , S Karl , B Baumann , O Micheau , K-M Debatin , S Fulda Identification of a novel pro-apoptotic role of NF-κB in the regulation of TRAIL- and CD95-mediated apoptosis of glioblastoma cells Oncogene (2012) doi: 10.1038/onc.2011.333 

An older one, almost a quarter a century old. This is how another type of brain tumour was cured back then, a German success story:

S Fulda , W Lutz , M Schwab , K M Debatin MycN sensitizes neuroblastoma cells for drug-induced apoptosis Oncogene (1999) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1202435

The material you see here was originally flagged on PubPeer by Clare Francis, with the help of Cheshire, two pseudonymous sleuths. Maybe DFG should invest into these experts of data integrity, instead of investing into those “experts”:

Simone Fulda, Martin U Küfer , Eric Meyer , Frans Van Valen , Barbara Dockhorn-Dworniczak , Klaus-Michael Debatin Sensitization for death receptor- or drug-induced apoptosis by re-expression of caspase-8 through demethylation or gene transfer Oncogene (2001) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1204750 

Oncogene again, Debatin’s and Fulda’s usual: curing cancer by activating apoptosis pathways.

M Kilic , H Kasperczyk , S Fulda, K-M Debatin Role of hypoxia inducible factor-1 alpha in modulation of apoptosis resistance Oncogene (2007) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1210008

The last author of the next Oncogene paper, Irmela Jeremias, trained as Debatin’s postdoc at the German Cancer Center (DKFZ), Heidelberg, and became unit director at Helmholtz Institute and professor at the LMU Munich. Like Fulda and Debatin, Jeremias never replied to my emails.

Harald Ehrhardt, Simone Fulda, Irene Schmid , John Hiscott , Klaus-Michael Debatin, Irmela Jeremias TRAIL induced survival and proliferation in cancer cells resistant towards TRAIL-induced apoptosis mediated by NF-kappaB Oncogene (2003) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1206520

One more with Jeremias in Oncogene:

H Ehrhardt , S Häcker , S Wittmann , M Maurer , A Borkhardt , A Toloczko , K-M Debatin , S Fulda, I Jeremias Cytotoxic drug-induced, p53-mediated upregulation of caspase-8 in tumor cells Oncogene (2008) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1210666 

We interrupt the Oncogene string to show you more papers by Debatin and his successful postdoc:

I Jeremias , C Kupatt , A Martin-Villalba , H Habazettl , J Schenkel , P Boekstegers , K M Debatin Involvement of CD95/Apo1/Fas in cell death after myocardial ischemia Circulation (2000) doi: 10.1161/01.cir.102.8.915

And another one, featuring Fulda. The editorial office of this journal is located at the German Cancer Research Center (DKFZ), where Debatin and his postdoc Jeremias worked at that time. Back then, birch tree bark was proposed as a new anti-cancer medicine, and the Debatin team jumped on that train:

S Fulda , I Jeremias , H H Steiner , T Pietsch , K M Debatin Betulinic acid: a new cytotoxic agent against malignant brain-tumor cells International Journal of Cancer (1999) doi: 10.1002/(sici)1097-0215(19990730)82:3<435::aid-ijc18>3.0.co;2-1 

We remain by the birch tree and its betulinic acid, but with a special guest. In 2011, a hospital magazine announced a breakthrough (translated):

“The active ingredient is obtained in a complex process from the bark of the birch tree (Latin: Betula alba). As early as 1995, it was discovered that betulinic acid can kill cells of black skin cancer, melanoma. Further studies by, among others, the working group of Prof. Simone Fulda and Prof. Klaus-Michael Debatin from the Clinic for Child and Adolescent Medicine at the University of Ulm showed that betulinic acid is also effective against other types of cancer, including malignant brain tumors, in preclinical models.

On the long journey of transferring the results of basic research from the laboratory bench to the hospital bed, the Ulm scientists are now cooperating with Prof. Guido Kroemer from the Gustave Roussy Cancer Research Institute in Villejuif near Paris. “The search for a new drug against cancer can only be successful if we join forces,” explains Fulda, who coordinates the two-year joint project.”

Yes! Guido Kroemer, a German superstar in France, the centre of data fudging universe in biomedicine, and Debatin’s & Fulda’s fellow Fellow of the Leopoldina Academy! The duo sits on various boards with Kroemer, and in fact, Fulda even did her postdoc in Kroemer’s Institut Gustave Roussy. This is what the German medical community celebrated:

Simone Fulda , Carsten Scaffidi , Santos A. Susin , Peter H. Krammer , Guido Kroemer , Marcus E. Peter , Klaus-Michael Debatin Activation of Mitochondria and Release of Mitochondrial Apoptogenic Factors by Betulinic Acid Journal of Biological Chemistry (1998) doi: 10.1074/jbc.273.51.33942 

Gosh, I wonder why birch tree bark never made it as chemotherapeutic, despite such solid peer-reviewed preclinical evidence? To be fair, Fulda’s & Debatin’s PubPeer record is amateurish compared to Kroemer’s. EIGHTY papers. All bad. None retracted.

More of Kroemer, you ask? You shall have it!

Simone Fulda, Eric Meyer , Claudia Friesen, Santos A Susin , Guido Kroemer, Klaus-Michael Debatin Cell type specific involvement of death receptor and mitochondrial pathways in drug-induced apoptosis Oncogene (2001) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1204141 

“Fig. 3A – More similar than expected. Should represent different conditions (Jurkat cells expressing FADD-DN or Bcl-2).” Actually, all 6 images are identical.
“Gels with similar features are also observed in Figure 3B (contrast enhanced).”

Debatin and Fulda posted a lenghty response on PubPeer in August 2020, excerpts:

“Figure 3A shows results comparable to the data published in the EMBO journal (Scaffidi et al, 1998) and Figure 3B shows the results for doxorubicin-induced DISC formation in type I (BJAB) and type II (Jurkat) cells. Thus, the data are robust and stable. […] After 20 years, there are no original data in our lab files. This is in line with national regulations, in particular the regulation of the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG – German Research Council), that asks for a 10-year storage of original data. As a remark, original data are discussed at our lab meetings with all members of the lab since more than 25 years. What is also important concerning the allegation is that the question per se (too similar) is difficult to understand, since on the basis of published data (Scaffidi et al, 1998) similar results are expected, i.e. no induction of CD95L and of CD95 DISC. This applies to 3A as well as to 3B.

However, the critique appears to be related to a similarity in the pattern of a film or membrane. The basis of this critique is difficult to understand. The results are similar since no specific signals are seen, as there is no induction of CD95L and no recruitment of caspase-8 or FADD to CD95 DISC in type II Jurkat cells. It is obvious that films with no signals detected are represented and, therefore, only background signals from the film, the membrane and/or the cassette can be seen. Since we use similar films, the background of the films upon strong enlargement could easily be similar and/or the environment, i.e. the cassette, where film and membranes are stored for exposure, could or should be similar, because the same structure on the cassette and the film is present and the exposure conditions are the same.”

This is utter nonsense, but maybe Debatin and Fulda never ran a gel themselves? Still, they signed with their authoritative titles: “Vice President – Ulm University Vice President – Frankfurt University“. Well, here is a specific signal for them, in Figure 7B, and there they didn’t reply anymore:

Later on, even more was found:

As reminder, this duo in 2017/2018 designed the national guidelines for reproducibility in biomedicine for the DFG. Because the signal in their own gels is so remarkably reproducible, you know.

More in Oncogene, that damn cassette struck again:

M Vogler , K Dürr , M Jovanovic , K-M Debatin , S Fulda Regulation of TRAIL-induced apoptosis by XIAP in pancreatic carcinoma cells Oncogene (2007) doi: 10.1038/sj.onc.1209776 

Enough of Oncogene, let’s look at other rotten journals. In this paper, Figure 4c contains two identical panels, but not only, because the evil cassette struck again:

S Cristofanon , S Fulda ABT-737 promotes tBid mitochondrial accumulation to enhance TRAIL-induced apoptosis in glioblastoma cells Cell Death and Disease (2012) doi: 10.1038/cddis.2012.163

Clare Francis, the sleuth who exposed this entire circus, has a theory why the obvious irregularities in Debatin’s and Fulda’s papers mostly stopped at around 2012:

I wonder if Silvia Bulfone-Paus had an effect on others. Klaus-Michael Debatin’s clearly problematic papers stop in 2012. Silvia was on the front of Der Spiegel in January 2011.

Clare Francis (link embedded)

You can read about the Bulfone-Paus affair here:

Zombie Scientists

There are zombie papers, those are the long-discredited or even misconduct-riddled publications, which somehow avoid retractions and continue contaminating scientific literature. The “Arsenic Life” paper in Science is such a parade example, but also cancer and stem research hide an impressive collection of zombie papers. Zombie scientists are those once renowned researchers, who were caught…

An interesting theory indeed. Either Debatin and Fulda became better scientists after 2012, or they just started to act smarter. Let’s look at more of their old papers. How about some flow cytometry? Of the kind where same FACS measurement of one sample was gated slightly differently to stand for two different experiments?

S Fulda , G Strauss , E Meyer , K M Debatin Functional CD95 ligand and CD95 death-inducing signaling complex in activation-induced cell death and doxorubicin-induced apoptosis in leukemic T cells Blood (2000) doi: 10.1182/blood.V95.1.301

Cell Death & Depravity stable again, fake gels again:

S Fulda , C Scaffidi , T Pietsch , P H Krammer , M E Peter , K M Debatin Activation of the CD95 (APO-1/Fas) pathway in drug- and gamma-irradiation-induced apoptosis of brain tumor cells Cell Death and Differentiation (1998) doi: 10.1038/sj.cdd.4400419 

Loading controls are for losers:

Claudia Friesen , Simone Fulda, Klaus-Michael Debatin Induction of CD95 ligand and apoptosis by doxorubicin is modulated by the redox state in chemosensitive- and drug-resistant tumor cells Cell Death and Differentiation (1999) doi: 10.1038/sj.cdd.4400512

Debatin’s mentee Claudia Friesen eventually made it to lab head in Ulm. I guess those who, uhm, disappointed Debatin, they didn’t make it to anything. Not all bad papers were published by Debatin and Fulda jointly. Friesen again, with Debatin:

Claudia Friesen, Gerhard Glatting , Bernd Koop , Klaus Schwarz , Alfred Morgenstern , Christos Apostolidis , Klaus-Michael Debatin , Sven N. Reske Breaking chemoresistance and radioresistance with [213Bi]anti-CD45 antibodies in leukemia cells Cancer Research (2007) doi: 10.1158/0008-5472.can-06-3569 

Fulda apparently also never believed in loading controls. Anything goes. Here is a rather new paper, from Frankfurt, a collaboration with KU Leuven in Belgium:

Behnaz Ahangarian Abhari , Nicole McCarthy , Patrizia Agostinis, Simone Fulda NF-κB contributes to Smac mimetic-conferred protection from tunicamycin-induced apoptosis APOPTOSIS (2019) doi: 10.1007/s10495-018-1507-2 

Nine or eight lanes, who cares, really. Not the editors or peer reviewers for sure. Maybe everyone forgot about Bulfone-Paus by then.

Same team, and look, “Figure 3C Very similar data for those two ER stress inducers“:

Behnaz Ahangarian Abhari , Nicole McCarthy , Marie Le Berre , Michelle Kilcoyne , Lokesh Joshi , Patrizia Agostinis , Simone Fulda Smac mimetic suppresses tunicamycin-induced apoptosis via resolution of ER stress Cell Death and Disease (2019) doi: 10.1038/s41419-019-1381-z

In September 2020, the authors issued a Correction:

“Since online publication of this article, the authors noticed that Fig. 3b does not show the correct graph for Bortezomib. […] This unintentional mistake does not alter the conclusions of the study. The authors apologise for any inconvenience caused.”

Fulda could have corrected this as well, it rots on PubPeer since 2016:

Ping Ji , Nicole Bäumer , Taijun Yin , Sven Diederichs , Feng Zhang , Carmela Beger , Karl Welte , Simone Fulda , Wolfgang E. Berdel , Hubert Serve , Carsten Müller-Tidow DNA damage response involves modulation of Ku70 and Rb functions by cyclin A1 in leukemia cells International Journal of Cancer (2007) doi: 10.1002/ijc.22634

Having successfully cured cancer, Debatin cured obesity using same tools. He activated apoptosis in fat cells:

Pamela Fischer-Posovszky , Hans Tornqvist , Klaus-Michael Debatin , Martin Wabitsch Inhibition of death-receptor mediated apoptosis in human adipocytes by the insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I)/IGF-I receptor autocrine circuit Endocrinology (2004) doi: 10.1210/en.2003-0985 

And now it gets a bit weird. Another one of Debatin’s former mentees in Ulm, Ingrid Herr, now professor at the University of Heidelberg, previously published a guest post on my site, about her own (foreign) PhD students forging data behind her back.

Here is a paper by Herr and Debatin, whom she described in an email to me as “an excellent mentor“:

N Gassler, C Zhang , T Wenger , P A Schnabel , H Dienemann , K-M Debatin , J Mattern , I Herr Dexamethasone-induced cisplatin and gemcitabine resistance in lung carcinoma samples treated ex vivo British Journal of Cancer (2005) doi: 10.1038/sj.bjc.6602453 

In August 2023, Herr explained on PubPeer:

“If we still had the raw data, I would post a correction. However, this publication is already 18 years old, so the raw data no longer exist. Nevertheless, this unintended mistake does not affect the core message of this publication in any way”

Only a few days later, the raw data miraculously materialised, Herr shared it on PubPeer with the note:

After reviewing our old hard disks, I have successfully identified the raw data from 2005.”

A Correction was published on 18 September 2023:

“Following publication of the original article [1], errors were identified in Fig. 2; specifically in Fig. 2b.

In the row showing cells 2 weeks after cisplatin, ‘CO’ and ‘DEX’ have been replaced with the correct data.

The authors provided the journal with the original data. The corrected figure is provided here. The correction does not have any effect on the results or conclusions of the paper.”

It is not clear why the authors used different magnifications for different time points. With the new control images, it is also not at all clear why much of the untreated primary tumour cells disappeared in a week, while the survivors changed their morphology. Are those peculiarities connected to the fact that the raw data suddenly became available after being lost for good?

By the way, Herr’s and Debatin’s coauthor in Heidelberg, the thoracic surgery professor Hendrik Dienemann, is a former patron of Paolo Macchiarini‘s acolyte Philipp Jungebluth. Dienemann even replaced Macchiarini as last author of a republished study (Jungebluth et al 2015) which original (Jungebluth et al 2015) was retracted some months ago. Read here.

Cell Death and Depravity

Is the journal Cell Death and Disease a disease itself, parasitised by Chinese paper mills? Can it be cured? Not with this team of doctors on editorial board.

Here is another Debatin & Herr paper, this time with Gerry Melino, chieftain of the Cell Death & Depravity gang (where Denbatin’s valued collaborator Guido Kroemer is key member). You saw some of Debatin’s and Fulda’s papers in Melino’s Cell Death & Depravity journals above.

Francesca Bernassola , Christian Scheuerpflug , Ingrid Herr , Peter H Krammer , Klaus-Michael Debatin , Gerry Melino Induction of apoptosis by IFNgamma in human neuroblastoma cell lines through the CD95/CD95L autocrine circuit Cell Death and Differentiation (1999) doi: 10.1038/sj.cdd.4400537 

Scientists never reuse DNA ladder lanes like this. Unless the fragments on their gels did not have the desired size? In August 2015, an “Addendum” was published:

“The authors note: ‘The marker in Figures 2a and 4 is identical, being from the same identical experiment that was then presented in two separate figures for editorial reasons. The marker in Figures 3a and 6b is identical, being from the same identical experiment that was then presented in two separate figures for editorial reasons. Both experiments were performed in 1997, and submitted at the end of 1998 (received 15.1.1999). At that time it was not required to insert a blank line of separation, as it is mandatory in these days. There is no evidence of wrongdoing, hence the results and conclusion remain valid. We thank the alert reader for bringing this issue to our attention, and we deeply apologize to readers for the erroneous labeling.’”

The paper was only 6 years old back then, and still the original gels were not available to prove the authors’ weird claim.

In any case, maybe Ingrid Herr is not really such a great role model of research integrity after all. You can triumphantly log this under: where Schneider went wrong.

I guess you will agree that the PubPeer records of Debatin and Fulda are serious enough to ask for institutional investigations. So I contacted the Universities of Ulm, Kiel and Frankfurt, as well as DKFZ and of course also the DFG. The DFG research integrity officer wrote to me on 9 January 2024:

We will examine the suspicions you have reported and will contact you again as soon as we have reliable information.”

I asked if they intend to decide as with another DFG Senator, Roland Lill. DFG remained silent. We all know where this is going.

DFG and Marburg drop misconduct investigation of Roland Lill papers

German Research Foundation (DFG) terminated the investigation against their Senator and Marburg University professor Roland Lill, after having found no research misconduct. No comments are issued on the integrity of the data in his papers on yeast biochemistry, or on some unusual image manipulations which were already admitted by Lill and his former PhD students…

The Ombudsman of the University of Kiel replied on 19 January 2024, acknowledging that my notification “could affect a person who is by now working at the Christian-Albrechts-Universität Kiel (CAU)“. He announced to investigate the allegation “regardless of the position of the accused person(s)“, but alas, the papers were published before that person came to Kiel, so the case was “forwarded to the ombudsman’s office of the relevant university” (presumably University of Ulm), and until then:

The presumption of innocence applies to all steps in the process up to clear proof of misconduct.”

Naturally, in Ulm the presumption of innocence rules supreme as well, so they didn’t even acknowledge receiving my my notification. There is nothing to investigate for them regarding their leader. And why should they, even Christoph Thiemermann is a guest professor at the Ulm university clinic.

Queen Mary and John Vane’s Cowboys

Welcome to the the William Harvey Research Institute in London. Meet two proteges of its founder, the late Nobelist Sir John Vane: Chris Thiemermann and Mauro Perretti. Then meet their own rotten mentees, especially Salvatore Cuzzocrea and Jesmond Dalli.


Update 13.02.2024

Simone Fulda resigned as President of Kiel University on Saturday evening, 10 February 2024, after media coverage and internal protests. Read here:

Simone Fulda: Open4Work!

“I am taking this step with a heavy heart and a sense of responsibility for the university since a sufficient foundation of mutual trust no longer remained with some parts of the university to ensure successful cooperation”, – Simone Fulda


149 comments on “Fulda & Debatin: Reproducibility of Results in Medical and Biomedical Research

  1. Anita Dumitrescu's avatar
    Anita Dumitrescu

    Well, I truly relish these findings. And a very good colleague of mine too. It should be made known very publicly. There are more apt vehicles for that than this rather “inner circle”. Should we?

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  2. Zebedee's avatar

    Those were the days. University of Kiel is in the same small state, Schleswig-Holstein, as FZ Borstel, where Silvia Bulfone-Paus was director. How come the University of Kiel didn’t check Simone Fulda’s publications?

    https://www.abendblatt.de/ratgeber/wissen/article107932614/Betrugsfall-Gefaelscht-und-aufgeflogen.html

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  3. goeck's avatar

    Fake it till you make it! But there is so much bullshit science out there you can only trust your own results, almost. Highly worrisome developments. In a way this is also slowing down science and should be followed MUCH more rigorously.

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    • tallpaulaa5fca40a8's avatar
      tallpaulaa5fca40a8

      This is great information but, with all respect, you desperately need an editor.

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  4. Aneurus's avatar

    Fulda and Debatin are just two of the many clowns infesting German academia. Another one is certainly Ingrid Herr, whose little Pubpeer saga rapidly developed into an odyssey after closer look (16 papers tagged for Frau Herr). Herr also had the gut to throw foreign students under the bus, while completely diverting her responsibilities. I’m glad my colleagues now acknowledge the evidence.

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    • Multiplex's avatar

      Recte: Horrorclowns. It is as if today’s right-wing extremists copied their recipes for success from cancer researchers (“alternative facts”, “flooding the zone with shit” a.s.o).

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    • Albert Varonov's avatar
      Albert Varonov

      Damn, 18 years have passed, either the foreign students are long gone or have become such “great scientists” with such “great mentors” that it will not be that easy for the bus. Therefore we have the next line of defense, data no longer exists which could be close to the truth since it may have never existed.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Nah, the papers are too old. Raw data wasn’t supposed to be stored and back then it was legal to fake, pardon, splice gels.

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      • Albert Varonov's avatar
        Albert Varonov

        Yes and it’s no different from nowadays. It’s legal, from time to time you get a paper or so retracted which is not a big deal since even retracted, continue to get citations. Not to mention you are not sued for scientific misconduct and very rarely you get fired and quickly after that hired to continue…

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        And the best thing: it is AGAINST THE LAW in Germany to write about science fraudsters.

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      • Albert Varonov's avatar
        Albert Varonov

        How could I have missed that?!

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      • Lukas's avatar

        Which law prohibits Germans from writing about science fraudsters, exactly?

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        German defamation law is centred on the protection of privacy and reputation. Hence, some things a court can forbid you to write even if your facts are correct and proven. You can argue with court that the accused is a public figure, but this rarely applies to scientists. That’s why German media never names the culprits, sometimes they don’t even say where the culprits work.
        Only politicians and celebrities can be named, and even they often successfully sue.

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      I thought that the guest article by Ingrid Herr was a spoof, but that’s just me. She certainly went down the road of blaming underlings.
      From her Pubpeer recird, on balance, she is more sinning, than sinned against. She might plead stupidity, but a professor of it pleasing stupidity doesn’t seem plausible.

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  5. Zebedee's avatar

    “I wonder if Silvia Bulfone-Paus had an effect on others. Klaus-Michael Debatin’s clearly problematic papers stop in 2012. Silvia was on the front of Der Spiegel in January 2011.“

    Clare Francis

    That might also be the explanation in Hannover, Germany, where the problematic data stopped in 2012.

    Hannover Scheibenkleister

    Many Germans in the professional classes will make an effort to read der Spiegel. It sets the tone.
    Many would sit up and take notice, or their peers might mention something to them.

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    • fefe's avatar

      Well, the “Spiegel” isn’t worth reading anymore, at least since the mid/ late 2000’s; there’s nothing but gossip and left-wing mainstream propaganda left. “Journalism” is dead in Germany, if it ever was alive.

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  6. Zebedee's avatar

    “Fulda followed him there to become professor of paediatric oncology, before moving to Frankfurt, and then to Kiel, rising with each step, up to her current magnificent rectorship.”

    Don’t you mean President?

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  7. Zebedee's avatar

    https://www.forschung-und-lehre.de/politik/uni-kiel-fordert-mehr-gestaltungsfreiheit-4558

    “Uni Kiel fordert mehr Gestaltungs-Freiheit
    Zu viel Steuerung vom Land, zu wenig Befugnisse für die Hochschulen: Die Präsidentin der Uni Kiel kritisiert das neue Hochschulgesetz.’

    29.03.2022

    What a laugh a fraudster demanding more freedom!

    Quite the opposite, the State of Schleswig-Holstein needs to take control immediately and fully, and dismiss Simone Fulda from her post as President of the University of Kiel without delay.

    Sometimes there does need to be control by the elected officials (the State government was elected by the voters of Schleswig-Holstein) over unelected fraudsters.

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  8. Blague's avatar

    Great article! One correction here: “This is how another type of brain tumour was cured back then, a German success story” – neuroblastoma is actually not a type of brain cancer.

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  9. Tyler's avatar

    Very well-researched allegations. I hope this interesting story somehow has any personal consequences. Scientific misconduct seems a major problem among pediatric oncologists in Germany (compare also the Tuebingen issue regarding Julia Skokowa, which was brought be LEONID SCHNEIDER recently).

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  10. Tyler's avatar

    Hello Leonid, who in Kiel decides on the installment of a commission to investigate the cases of scientific misconduct by Prof. Fulda? The president of the university, i.e. Simone Fulda herself? I am curious to see how this case continues.

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  11. Zebedee's avatar

    Simone Fulda and Klaus-Michael Debatin are very lucky.
    They are being let of the hook by this excellent article:

    Dana-Farberications at Harvard University

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  12. Zebedee's avatar

    Simone Fulda’s problematic data go back a long way.
    Maybe she will go the way of Silvana Koch-Mehrin, who only copied text.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvana_Koch-Mehrin

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      For some reason plagiarism (a form of flattery) is viewed more seriously than problematic data in Germany. I don’t understand why that should be. Copycats are not making it up.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        You must stop seeing the world as scientist and look at it like a lawyer. Because lawyers decide at the end what is misconduct and what is not.
        What are those figures you keep flagging for duplications? Pictures! Illustrations! The core of the paper is in its text, what are you, a child, that you need pictures? How do mistakes in those redundant pictures affect the conclusions of the text?
        Lawyers work with texts, not with figures. For them, research misconduct is when academic texts are stolen, i.e. plagiarised. That’s why plagiarism is misconduct and fake data is not.

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  13. Zebedee's avatar

    Kieler Nachrichten (Kiel News) reporting.

    Blogger wirft Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Simone Fulda Datenmanipulation vor (kn-online.de)

    Vorwurf der Datenmanipulation gegen Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda

    Accusation of data manipulation against Kiel University President Fulda

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      That’s good news that Kiler Nachrichten is reporting about Simone Fulda (Kiel) and Klaus-Michael Debatin (Ulm). The local population in Kiel and Schleswig-Holstein (the state Kiel is in), including the politicians, will read that report and have the opportunity to have a look at the frequent problematic data.

      Eventually the news gets out to the wider population.

      Similar thing happened to Silvia Bulfone-Paus, who was a director of the FZ Borstel (Research Center Borstel), which is also in Schleswig-Holstein. First the problematic data were reported in Laborjournal, then Retraction Watch, later NDR (North German Television) reported from the FZ Borstel site (Research Center Borstel), and der Spiegel reported on its front page in 2011. News items ran through 2012.

      Pity that the people on the committee that appointed Simone Fulda in 2020 as President of Kiel University had such short memories and didn’t check Simone Fulda’s data. They should all seriously consider resigning their positions before they are pushed by the state government.

      Parents would be upset if their children cheated at school. Other children would be upset if children cheated at school. How can the schools expect children not to cheat if the President of Kiel University cheated to get where she is?

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        https://idw-online.de/en/news823752

        Cluster of Excellence PMI promotes outstanding female researchers with a total of €200,000

        “It is a great and personal pleasure for me to congratulate this year’s prize winners on their awards. They show that top scientific achievements, especially by female researchers, require excellent framework conditions, such as those created by our Cluster of Excellence PMI in an exemplary manner and with radiance for the entire CAU,” emphasized Prof. Simone Fulda, President of Kiel University, at the award ceremony.”

        Didn’t Simone Fulda appreciate the irony of a fraudster congratulating the prize winners?

        What kind of example does Prof. Simone Fulda, President of Kiel University think she is?

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        https://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/drei-projekte-abgeblitzt-keine-neuen-exzellenzcluster-fuer-cau-kiel-AYBYAIGJWZEZJJC3QDUAKZWARE.html

        No new excellence clusters for Kiel University.

        No wonder with Prof. Simone Fulda as it’s President! Perhaps the funding bodies have read and digested the news.

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    • Leonid Schneider's avatar

      So heavily paywalled I can’t even see who wrote it.
      Meanwhile Fulda is defending democracy:
      https://x.com/kieluni/status/1750107444729012420?s=20

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        You can read this short report by NDR.

        Schleswig-Holstein aktuell: Nachrichten im Überblick | NDR.de – Nachrichten – Schleswig-Holstein – Kurznachrichten

        Der Wissenschaftsblog forbetterscience wirft Professorin Simone Fulda, Präsidentin der Christian-Albrechts-Universität Kiel, vor, Daten bei früheren Forschungsarbeiten zur Krebsforschung manipuliert zu haben. Biomedizinische Abbildungen unterschiedlicher Forschungsreihen seien nahezu identisch – das sei eigentlich nicht möglich, so Blogautor und Biologe Leonid Schneider in dem Artikel. Außerdem seien einige Darstellungen einfach nur gespiegelt worden, heißt es im Blog. Die Präsidentin der Uni sagte NDR Schleswig-Holstein, dass sie den Vorwurf mit allem Nachdruck zurückweise. Es gebe keine Tatsachengrundlage, die diesen Vorwurf rechtfertige. Die Uni teilte mit, die Hinweise prüfen zu wollen und sich dann zu äußern. | NDR Schleswig-Holstein 07.02.2024 06:00 Uhr

        The science blog forbetterscience accuses Professor Simone Fulda, President of Kiel University, of having manipulated data from previous research on cancer research. Biomedical images from different research series are almost identical – this is actually not possible, according to blog author and biologist Leonid Schneider in the article. In addition, some representations were simply mirrored, according to the blog. The president of the university told NDR Schleswig-Holstein that she emphatically rejects the accusation. There is no factual basis to justify this allegation. The university announced that it would examine the indications and then comment. | NDR Schleswig-Holstein 07.02.2024 06:00 a.m.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        She rejects what?
        That the gel bands are duplicated? Seriously?

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      • Multiplex's avatar

        “Es gebe keine Tatsachengrundlage”

        As I said. They truly invented “alternative facts”. Trump & Co. are just copycats.

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        SomeThoughts

        I was thinking the same. How can Fulda actually go on and act like these figures display real gels/results? It is so blatantly obvious once you see it, it is literally impossible to get identical bands like this, everyone who did a couple of SDS gels or blots in their life will agree, it CAN NOT HAPPEN. How is her narrative: “All of the accusations are baseless and wrong?” I would understand if she tried to throw former PhD/postdocs under the bus and pretend she didn’t notice, but now she is literally denying reality. She might have convinced herself over the years which reality is the real one…

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    https://www.kn-online.de/schleswig-holstein/unruhe-an-der-kieler-uni-2UHRXKOXHVCZ3GDQAFYD2NFZRY.html

    “Zusätzlich muss sie w[Simone Fulda] sich gegen den schweren Vorwurf wehren, bei ihrer eigenen wissenschaftlichen Arbeit in der Vergangenheit Daten manipuliert zu haben. Der deutsch-ukrainische Autor Leonid Schneider behauptet zudem, dass die Kinderonkologin Fulda gemeinsam mit ihrem wissenschaftlichen Ziehvater, dem Leiter der Ulmer Uni-Klinik, Prof. Klaus-Michael Debatin, ein Netzwerk der Macht aufgebaut habe. Wissenschaftsministerium und Asta haben vergleichsweise kühle Stellungnahmen abgegeben. Sie erwarten eine „gründliche Aufklärung“.”

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    https://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/cau-kiel-manipulationsvorwurf-gegen-simone-fulda-der-druck-waechst-O6YAXOREARG7TKLITGQ7IE7Q6Q.html

    Manipulationsvorwürfe gegen CAU-Präsidentin Fulda: Der Druck wächst

    Kiel. Mittwoch, 14.30 Uhr. Der Senat der Kieler Christian-Albrechts-Universität kommt zusammen, zur dritten regulären Sitzung des Wintersemesters. Doch dieses Mal erregt die Sitzung auch außerhalb der Universität Aufmerksamkeit. Der Grund: CAU-Präsidentin Prof. Simone Fulda sieht sich aktuell mit einem heftigen Vorwurf konfrontiert.

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      I think that this article, unlike the earlier one, is free because Kieler Nachrichten (Kiel News) wants people to read it and help Kieler Nachrichten gain the national headlines. Perhaps it thinks there is an award on the horizon.

      Every little bit helps!

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    • Multiplex's avatar

      Ivan Oransky will be awarded for all this 😂😂😂

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        https://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/die-uni-kiel-hat-keinen-lauf-TE7FS5QMSFDDVODCJFGFRJ7CGQ.html

        “hat die Präsidentin der Kieler Universität in früheren Jahren als Krebsforscherin grobe Fehler gemacht? Oder, dieser Vorwurf steht jedenfalls im Raum, hat Prof. Simone Fulda sogar Daten bewusst manipuliert? Aufgedeckt haben will das ein Wissenschaftsblogger. Die Reaktionen auf den öffentlichen Vorwurf kamen prompt: Während das schleswig-holsteinische Wissenschaftsministerium schnelle Aufklärung fordert, weist Fulda selbst alle Vorwürfe vehement zurück.Am Mittwochnachmittag war der brisante Fall auch Thema im nicht-öffentlichen Teil einer Sitzung des Uni-Senats. Hier wollte sich Fulda ebenfalls äußern. Wie mein Kollege Jonas Bickel aus Unikreisen erfuhr, sei die Kritik in der Substanz nicht zu unterschätzen. Es ginge allgemein um eine „Kultur von Publikationen“. Man müsse ein mögliches Fehlverhalten nun sehr genau prüfen. Und es könne sein, so ein Mensch mit viel hochschulpolitische Erfahrung, dass Fulda nun von Altlasten eingeholt werde.Eine Vorverurteilung verbietet sich selbstverständlich. Wir werden den Fall aber mit der gebotenen Seriosität verfolgen. Denn es stellt sich auch die Frage: Was – falls es stimmt – sind die Gründe für eine Manipulation von Daten?”

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/Manipulationsvorwuerfe-gegen-Praesidentin-der-Uni-Kiel,unikiel136.html
        Wissenschaftsblog deckt in USA mögliche Datenmanipulation auf

        Auf dem Wissenschaftsblog forbetterscience veröffentlichen verschiedene Autoren und Wissenschaftler englischsprachige Beiträge zu unterschiedlichen Themen. Erst Ende Januar hat ein Autor dieses Blogs in den USA einen Wissenschaftsskandal mit ausgelöst: Wie der US-Sender CNN berichtet, zog ein Institut der renommierten Harvard Universität aufgrund der Vorwürfe auf dem Blog sechs Studien zurück und korrigierte etliche weitere. Auch in diesen Fällen geht es um angebliche Datenmanipulation.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Exclusive: German university President resigns after Retraction Watch reporting!

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      • Multiplex's avatar

        FBS in german “ÖR”-media – for the very first time, I suppose.

        Congrats, Leonid. Hope they will treat you fair. There are lots of professors who have to pay for this – not science bloggers or other whistleblowers.

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  16. Zebedee's avatar

    Unruhe an CAU Kiel: Mediziner drängen Uni-Präsidentin Simone Fulda zum Rücktritt (kn-online.de)

    Kostenfrei bis 19:30 Uhr lesenUnruhe an Uni Kiel: Mediziner drängen CAU-Präsidentin Simone Fulda zum Rücktritt

    Die Präsidentin der Christian-Albrechts-Universität wird aus den eigenen Reihen zum Rücktritt gedrängt. In einem Schreiben an Simone Fulda, das den Kieler Nachrichten vorliegt, finden Spitzenmediziner mit Blick auf den Kampf um Fördergelder und die Zweifel an ihrer wissenschaftlichen Integrität deutliche Worte.

    Kristian Blasel und Gunda Meyer

    08.02.2024, 18:30 Uhr

    Kiel. Um die Präsidentin der Christian-Albrechts-Universität Kiel wird es einsam: Führende Wissenschaftler der Medizinischen Fakultät haben Simone Fulda am Donnerstag aufgefordert zurückzutreten – und begründen dies mit dem Scheitern aller Neuanträge in der Exzellenzinitiative und den Zweifeln an ihrer wissenschaftlichen Integrität.

    In einem Schreiben an die CAU-Präsidentin, das den Kieler Nachrichten vorliegt, heißt es wörtlich: „Wir, berufene Professorinnen und Professoren der Medizinischen Fakultät der Christian-Albrechts-Universität, haben mit großer Sorge das Scheitern aller Neuanträge unserer Universität in der Exzellenzinitiative gesehen.“Mediziner aus Kiel: „Wir fordern Sie auf, Ihrer Verantwortung nachzukommen“

    Man habe auch die öffentlichen Vorwürfe zur Integrität von „zahlreichen Ihrer wissenschaftlichen Originalarbeiten über die letzten 20 Jahre gelesen und im Detail zur Kenntnis genommen“. Die Unterzeichner, zu denen zahlreiche renommierte Mediziner aus Kiel gehören, schließen ihren Brief mit einer deutlichen Botschaft: „Wir fordern Sie daher mit Nachdruck auf, Ihrer Verantwortung gegenüber der Universität als unsere Präsidentin nachzukommen und jetzt alles zu tun, um weiteren Schaden von unserer Alma Mater abzuwenden.“

    Weder das Wissenschaftsministerium, Simone Fulda selbst noch die Unterzeichner wollten sich am Donnerstag offiziell zu dem Schreiben äußern. Nach Informationen der Kieler Nachrichten wird jedoch davon ausgegangen, dass sich Fulda nicht mehr lange im Amt halten kann. Die Präsidentin sei „schwer angezählt“.Kritiker von CAU-Präsidentin Fulda legt nach

    Fulda hatte sich am Mittwochabend im Senat der CAU erstmals innerhalb der Universität zu den Vorwürfen geäußert und erneut die Vorwürfe zurückgewiesen. Der Wissenschaftsjournalist Leonid Schneider, der Fulda bei einer früheren Forschungsarbeit Datenmanipulation vorgeworfen hat, bekräftigte am Donnerstag seine Kritik. „Ich habe mit weiteren Krebsspezialisten gesprochen, die diese Ungereimtheiten bestätigt haben.“

    Unabhängig von der Frage, ob Fulda in der Vergangenheit wissenschaftlich unsauber gearbeitet hat, wachsen in der Politik die Zweifel, ob sie im Kampf der Kieler Universität um weitere Fördergelder die richtige Präsidentin ist. Drei neue Forschungsprojekte aus Schleswig-Holstein sollten eigentlich sogenannte Exzellenzcluster werden. Am Wochenende wurde bekannt, dass keines davon im Wettbewerb weitergekommen ist.

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    • Leonid Schneider's avatar

      She will resign very soon.

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        Klaus-Michael Debatin (Ulm) and Irmela Jeremias (Munich) also have problematic data which are very difficult to explain away as random mistakes. Perhaps they should resign as well. The problematic data helped them to get where they are today. Not free and fair competition, but rigged.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Reply to my notification regarding Jeremias:

        Sehr geehrter Herr Schneider,

        bitte teilen Sie mir mit, was dieser Fall mit dem Helmholtz-Zentrum München zu tun hat bzw wen Sie im Helmholtz Zentrum München beschuldigen.

        Mit freundlichen Grüßen

        Erich Wichmann
        Ombudsperson
        Helmholtz München

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Birte Grimm, Onbudsperson of University of Ulm, just ordered me never to write to her and other Ombudspersons at her University again.
        “Please understand that I will not answer your emails in the future due to an utter lack of responsibility.”
        She sent me the guideline to prove that it is not her job of the Ombudsperson to process my notification.
        Again, she never read §23.

        Click to access satzung_vidw_2022.pdf

        § 23 Vorverfahren
        (1) Im Fall eines Verdachts für wissenschaftliches Fehlverhalten soll unverzüglich eine Ombudsper-
        son informiert werden. Die Information soll schriftlich erfolgen; bei mündlicher Information ist ein
        schriftlicher Vermerk über den Verdacht und die diesen begründenden Tatsachen aufzunehmen.
        Alternativ können sich die Mitglieder und Angehörigen der Universität Ulm an das Gremium „Om-
        budsman für die Wissenschaft“ der Deutschen Forschungsgemeinschaft wenden.
        (2) Erlangt eine Ombudsperson Kenntnis von einem wissenschaftlichen Fehlverhalten, prüft sie die
        Vorwürfe unter Plausibilitätsgesichtspunkten auf Konkretheit und Bedeutung, auf mögliche Motive
        und in Hinblick auf Möglichkeiten der Ausräumung der Vorwürfe

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Sehr geehrter Herr Schneider,

        hiermit möchte ich Ihnen den Eingang Ihrer Anzeige bestätigen und mitteilen, dass ich aufgrund der Schwere der Vorwürfe den Fall an die Kommission für Fragen der Guten Wissenschaftlichen Praxis am Helmholtz Munich weitergeleitet habe.
        Die Kommission wird sich mit dem Fall weiter befassen.

        Mit freundlichem Gruß
        Rolf Holle

        Ombudsperson am Helmholtz Munich

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        Birte Grimm, Ombudsperson of University of Ulm, is typical. There are rules, but she ignores the rules. Birte Grimm can write so she can read as well. Sounds like she is deliberately ignoring the rules. Well, it is the University of Ulm, so what can you expect!?

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      • KE's avatar

        Your contact at Ulm is Birte Glimm (not Grimm) and she is one of the deputy ombudspersons, not a main one. I did my PhD in the group of the other deputy a few years ago.

        Is there a way for you to forward me Prof. Glimms answer? I can ask my former boss directly about this process, and it will be harder to just shrug this off. If their view is that only a current member of the university is allowed to complain, I also know faculty members and students who I can ask to bring a complaint.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        I shared with you the email.
        Glimm talks nonsense, everyone can report misconduct to the ombudsperson.
        Her real message to me was actually that I am a nobody and must know my place.

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        kehingercd601c1331

        Thanks for the e-mail, I’ve contacted my former boss.

        Depending on how you interpret the rest of the “Satzung”, one could actually argue that the Ombudsperson is only responsible for complaints of university members. But since they also have to follow all serious allegations that reach them in any way (not just by direct complaint) and there are explicit rules for anonymous complaints, this view is quite absurd.

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      Die Leute in Kiel reagieren auf Logik. Das ist ein gutes Zeichen.

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        Christoph Hüggelmeyer

        Very interesting is also, that Debatin is the ombudsperson for “good scientific practice” of the “Heidelberg Academy of scientifics”

        http://www.hadw-bw.de/personen/ombudspersonen

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        This is total PISS TAKING

        The academy management has appointed two neutral and personally integrity-based ombudspersons from among the members to provide advice, preliminary examination and arbitration of conflict cases regarding issues of good scientific practice . In particular, the ombudspersons have the task of providing advice to those involved in the event of suspicion of violations of the principles of good scientific practice, while strictly maintaining confidentiality. In addition, the ombudspersons will investigate the matter and, depending on the outcome, take further steps.

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  17. Zebedee's avatar

    Kommentar zu Simone Fulda: Es gibt kein Vertrauen mehr (kn-online.de)

    Kommentar

    Zum Fall Simone Fulda: Präsidentin ohne Vertrauen

    An der Kieler Universität überschlagen sich die Ereignisse. Nach dem Schreiben von Kieler Spitzenmedizinern an Simone Fulda gibt es keinen Spielraum mehr. Die CAU-Präsidentin muss ihren Stuhl frei machen, meint Kristian Blasel, stellvertretender Chefredakteur.

    Kristian Blasel

    08.02.2024, 18:30 Uhr

    Kiel. Natürlich gilt auch für Simone Fulda die Unschuldsvermutung. Aber es geht in Kiel längst nicht mehr um die Frage, ob die Präsidentin der Christian-Albrechts-Universität vor vielen Jahren während ihrer Forschungsarbeit Daten manipuliert hat. Als oberste Repräsentantin der Universität ist sie gleichermaßen auf das Vertrauen von Politik und Wissenschaftsapparat angewiesen. Beides hat sie verloren.

    Am schmerzhaftesten dürfte für sie dabei die klare Botschaft aus der medizinischen Fakultät sein, die sie am Donnerstag erreichte. Wenn die Spitzenkräfte aus Kiel von ihr verlangen, „Verantwortung gegenüber der Universität“ zu übernehmen und darauf verweisen, die wissenschaftlichen Vorwürfe gegen sie „im Detail zur Kenntnis genommen zu haben“, dann hat sie keinen Spielraum mehr. Simone Fulda muss zurücktreten. Daran gibt es nach diesem Donnerstag keinen Zweifel mehr.Im Kieler Ministerium gibt es kein Vertrauen mehr in die Arbeit der Uni-Spitze

    Zumal sich auch im Wissenschaftsministerium niemand mehr für sie starkmacht. Im Gegenteil: Die Stellungnahmen nach dem vorläufigen Scheitern in der Exzellenzcluster-Frage und Bekanntwerden der Vorwürfe hat das Prien-Team mit maximaler Kälte formuliert. Wer einer Präsidentin vertraut, handelt anders. Zu groß ist im Ministerium vor allem die Enttäuschung darüber, dass die Meeresforschung bislang nicht die internationale Anerkennung bekommt, die erhofft worden ist.

    Simone Fulda ist vor allem verpflichtet worden, um Spitzenforschung in Kiel zu etablieren und mit ihrem wissenschaftlichen Netzwerk Fördergelder an die Förde zu holen. Schon an der ersten Hürde ist sie gestrauchelt. Einen zweiten Anlauf soll sie offensichtlich nicht mehr bekommen. Das mag menschlich mehr als bitter sein. Aber beim Thema Geld ist es im Universitätsleben wie in der Fußball-Bundesliga: Wenn der Abstieg droht, wird gehandelt.

    KN

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    The 13 retractions by Silvia Bulfone-Paus, who was the direct of FZ Borstel research center, in Schleswig-Holstein, the same German state as Kiel, became national news in 2011 and 2012.

    It is a waste of talent that the German system, which has a lot of money, did not use the 13 Silvia Bulfone-Paus retractions as a wake-up call and systematically screen all German publications for inappropriate image duplications.

    Such as screen of images could have detected Simone Fulda and Klaus-Michael Debatin in 2012. A screen of images did detect Silvia Bulfone-Paus after all. It was possible and did happen.

    Removing people like Silvia Bulfone-Paus, Simone Fulda and Klaus-Michael Debatin from the German system would have allowed others to have flourished in their place.

    Silvia Bulfone-Paus was removed from the German system, but found a professorship at the University Manchester, England. Several Germans though thought that this was a sign that the British had lost their cleverness.

    https://retractionwatch.com/?s=Bulfone-Paus+

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      Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Simone Fulda wehrt sich gegen Vorwurf der Datenmanipulation (aerztezeitung.de)

      “HochschulenKieler Uni-Präsidentin Simone Fulda wehrt sich gegen Vorwurf der Datenmanipulation

      Fulda gilt als angesehene Wissenschaftlerin. Nun muss sie sich gegen Vorwürfe wehren, die in einem Wissenschaftsblog gegen sie erhoben werden.

      Veröffentlicht: 08.02.2024, 17:55 Uhr

      Kiel. Die Präsidentin der Kieler Christian-Albrechts-Universität (CAU), Medizinerin Professorin Simone Fulda, wehrt sich gegen Manipulationsvorwürfe. Die Vorwürfe beziehen sich auf eine frühere Tätigkeit Fuldas in der molekularen Krebsforschung.

      Angeblich soll Fulda zusammen mit anderen Wissenschaftlern Daten manipuliert haben. Die Vorwürfe werden von einem Biologen in einem englischsprachigen Beitrag auf dem Wissenschaftsblog „forbetterscience” erhoben.

      Auf Anfrage der Ärzte Zeitung erklärte die Kieler Universität hierzu: „Prof. Dr. Simone Fulda weist die Vorwürfe der angeblichen Datenmanipulation mit allem Nachdruck zurück. Es gibt keine Tatsachengrundlage, die diesen unzutreffenden Vorwurf rechtfertigt. Um Klarheit in der Sache zu schaffen, werden derzeit die Vorwürfe entsprechend den Richtlinien zur Sicherung guter wissenschaftlicher Praxis geprüft.” Diese Prüfungen laufen derzeit noch. Die Hochschule will sich zu den Ergebnissen äußern, sobald die Ergebnisse vorliegen.

      Hoch dekorierte Wissenschaftlerin

      Kinderonkologin Fulda ist seit Oktober 2020 Präsidentin der CAU und Mitglied der Nationalen Akademie der Wissenschaften Leopoldina, hat über 380 wissenschaftliche Publikationen und Buchartikel veröffentlicht sowie zahlreiche nationale und internationale Verbundforschungsprojekte geleitet. (di)

      Nice to see the Ärzte Zeitung (Doctors’ Newspaper) take the “she’s a highly decorated scientist line” over the reality of problematic data.





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  19. Egoman's avatar

    I’ve often wondered why data sleuths pay less attention to the statistical analysis conducted for studies in biological sciences. The more I learn about statistics, the more I find myself disappointed by the lack of basic statistical knowledge in my field. I’ve seen studies conducted with sample size of 1 being published by journals of Springer-Nature. Studies which have “calculated” interaction effects despite only experimenting with one independent variable. This could be a new approach to catching bad science.

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    • Leonid Schneider's avatar

      That is actually not true, there are sleuths who specialise on statistics. Google Nick Brown.
      Or this:

      Carlisle’s statistics bombshell names and shames rigged clinical trials


      In any case, if you find things, you should post them on PubPeer and report to the journals and institutions.
      Research integrity is a communal effort and not something one shoud dexpect others to take care of.

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      • Egoman's avatar
        • The paper I referred to comes from my former supervisor and my institution goes to great length to cover up misconduct by its employees.
        • Additionally, my report would make the journal editors and peer-reviewers look like fools who don’t understand basic statistics and overlooked analysis based on n=1.

        • I’ve already contacted the authors on pubpeer to request their data. There hasn’t been a response in almost 3 months now.

        Together these reasons suggests that it’s unlikely that this paper would get corrected or even retracted.

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        Egoman

        Sorry about the super late response. Here’s the link to the paper I was referring to: Steering the product spectrum in high-pressure anaerobic processes: CO2 partial pressure as a novel tool in biorefinery concepts | Biotechnology for Biofuels and Bioproducts (springer.com)

        As you may notice, the paper plagiarized my idea of interaction effect between pCO2 and substrate concentration but surprisingly only used ONE variable to come to conclusion when everyone knows that you need to vary two or more variables for measuring interaction effects. It’s amazing how none of the editors or peer-reviewers caught this or the fact that these results were based on sample size of 1! No replication or repetition whatsoever. I wonder how my former supervisor claim to have not plagiarized my ideas when they don’t even know how interaction effects are calculated.

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      Because most editors don’t understand statistics.

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  20. Zebedee's avatar

    https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2010.671

    Nature reported 13 December 2010.

    All that time ago!

    “Investigation digs deeper after finding images were manipulated in six papers.”

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      Bundesweit abräumen!

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        https://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/cau-praesidentin-simone-fulda-in-kiel-manipulationsverdacht-ist-kein-einzelfall-TGERKR5M75GLNNR6KTT3KYTHZM.html

        “Fulda weist diesen Vorwurf mit Nachdruck von sich. Es ist nicht das erste Mal, dass in Schleswig-Holstein der Verdacht auf Manipulation von Daten gegen eine Wissenschaftlerin laut wird.”

        Simone Fulda is pretending that there is a campaign against her. Her defence: ” it’s not the first time in Schleswig-Holstein that a female scientist has been under suspicion of data manipulation”.

        Simone Fulda should read on.

        “Dutzend Veröffentlichungen wegen manipulierter Daten zurückziehen. Vier deutsche Institutionen leiteten Prüfverfahren ein. Nach rund zweieinhalb Jahren hatte dann die Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG) eine Entscheidung in dem Manipulationsskandal getroffen.Sie bescheinigte Bulfone-Paus eine „grobe Vernachlässigung der Aufsichtspflicht“ als Leiterin der Arbeitsgruppe und wissenschaftliches Fehlverhalten. Die Wissenschaftlerin wurde schriftlich gerügt und durfte drei Jahre lang keine Forschungsgelder mehr bei der DFG beantragen. Zudem durfte sie keine anderen Studien begutachten und wurde für diesen Zeitraum aus den Gremien der Forschungsgemeinschaft ausgeschlossen. Heute arbeitet Bulfone-Paus an der Universität Manchester in England.”

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        https://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/uni-kiel-cau-praesidentin-fulda-reagiert-auf-mediziner-brief-H2R2NVAX7VBALDSHNCMBFMZSIE.html

        Und was macht die Präsidentin? Sie schweigt, zumindest zu den heftigsten Vorwürfen. Um 15.07 Uhr erhalten sämtliche Mitarbeiterinnen und Mitarbeiter der Universität eine Mail, in der Prof. Fulda Stellung nimmt – allerdings nur zur Exzellenz-Thematik.
        [….]
        Nur Wissenschaftsministerin Karin Prien gibt ein öffentliches Statement ab, das erneut sehr klar formuliert ist: „Die im Raum stehenden Vorwürfe haben das Potenzial, die nun dringend notwendigen Anstrengungen der CAU zu überschatten, im weiteren Verfahren der beiden bestehenden Exzellenzcluster erfolgreich zu sein.“ Sie erwarte von den verantwortlichen Akteuren, dass sie ihr Handeln „am Wohl der Universität“ orientieren.

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        Fraudsters 2: 0 Schleswig-Holstein.

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    https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/kurznachrichten/Schleswig-Holstein-aktuell-Nachrichten-im-Ueberblick,news3686.html

    Uni Kiel stärkt Fulda den Rücken    Die Uni Kiel hat ihrer Präsidentin Simone Fulda den Rücken gestärkt. Sowohl der Senatsvorsitzende Wolfgang Duschl als auch Ursula Gather vom Hochschulrat sprachen ihr das Vertrauen aus. Die Unipräsidentin war in die Kritik geraten, weil die Uni mit allen drei Neuanträgen für Exzellenzcluster gescheitert war. Außerdem hat ein Wissenschaftsblogger den Vorwurf der Datenmanipulation in früheren wissenschaftlichen Arbeiten erhoben, für die Fulda inhaltlich verantwortlich war. Die Professorin hatte diese Vorwürfe zurückgewiesen. “Ich gehe davon aus, dass die zuständigen Gremien der Universität in der kommenden Woche zusammenkommen werden um das weitere Vorgehen zu beraten und notwendige Entscheidungen zu treffen”, sagte Bildungsministerin Karin Prien (CDU) auf Nachfrage von NDR Schleswig-Holstein. Sie erwarte, dass die verantwortlichen Akteure ihr weiteres Handeln am Wohl der Universität orientieren. | NDR Schleswig-Holstein 10.02.2024 10:00 Uhr

    Misguided to back a fraudster. It will not end well. Wolfgang Duschl the chairman of the university Senate, and Ursula Gather from the university council may have to go otherwise there will be no Kiel University left to have a Senate, or university council.

    The education minister, Karin Prien, seems a sensible woman. She is advising that people should behave with the best interests of the university in mind. I think that is code for the President of Kiel University, Simone Fulda to resign swiftly.

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    • Leonid Schneider's avatar

      They probably think this is the normal situation where nobody who matters is paying attention.
      Thing is, of course those who voted Fulda in don’t want to look like idiots. But they will.

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  22. Zebedee's avatar

    Fall Simone Fulda: Kieler CAU-Präsidentin tritt zurück (kn-online.de)

    Simone Fulda, Präsidentin der Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel (CAU), tritt nach der immer lauteren Kritik der vergangenen Tage zurück. Das hat sie Wissenschaftsministerin Karin Prien (CDU) am Sonnabend mitgeteilt. Fulda wird Datenmanipulation in der Forschung vorgeworfen.

    Simone Fulda, President of the Christian Albrechts University in Kiel (CAU), is resigning after increasingly loud criticism in recent days. She told Science Minister Karin Prien (CDU) this on Saturday. Fulda is accused of data manipulation in research.

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  23. Zebedee's avatar

    NDR reporting.

    Rücktritt: Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda stellt Amt zur Verfügung | NDR.de – Nachrichten – Schleswig-Holstein

    Rücktritt: Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda stellt Amt zur Verfügung

    Stand: 10.02.2024 19:55 Uhr

    Die Präsidentin der Christian-Albrechts-Universität (CAU) in Kiel, Simone Fulda, tritt zurück. Das hat das schleswig-holsteinische Bildungsministerium am Samstagabend bekannt gegeben.

    Resignation: Kiel University President Fulda makes office available

    Last updated: 10.02.2024 19:55

    The President of Kiel University, Simone Fulda, is stepping down. This was announced by the Schleswig-Holstein Ministry of Education on Saturday evening.

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  24. Zebedee's avatar

    Süddeutsche Zeitung reporting.

    Wissenschaft – Kiel – Prien: Uni-Präsidentin Fulda stellt Amt zur Verfügung – Wissen – SZ.de (sueddeutsche.de)

    Wissenschaft – Kiel:Prien: Uni-Präsidentin Fulda stellt Amt zur Verfügung

    10. Februar 2024, 20:29 Uhr

    Science – Kiel
    :
    Prien: University President Fulda vacates office.
    10 feb 2024, 20:29

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  25. observer's avatar

    fulda just retired

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      Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda tritt zurück (merkur.de)

      Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda tritt zurück

      Stand:10.02.2024, 20:54 Uhr

      Kile Uni-President Fulda resigns.

      “Die „Kieler Nachrichten“ hatten vor wenigen Tagen zuerst über einen entsprechenden Beitrag im englischsprachigen Internetblog „For Better Science“ berichtet.”

      A few days ago, the “Kieler Nachrichten” first reported on a corresponding article in the English-language Internet blog “For Better Science”.

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      • Zebedee's avatar

        I think that Klaus-Michael Debatin, vice-president of the University of Ulm, will continue as if nothing has happened, when his Pubpeer record of problematic data is mostly the same as Simone Fulda’s list of problematic data.

        The University of Ulm, unlike Kiel University does not appear to react to the logic of many problematic publications.

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        Another major German newspaper reporting. This time “Die Zeit”.

        Wissenschaft: Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda tritt zurück | ZEIT ONLINE

        Kieler Uni-Präsidentin Fulda tritt zurück

        Kiel Uni-President Fulda resigns

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        It’s in all newspapers now. They republish the DPA news report.
        But SZ edited it to remove the reference to For Better Science.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Fulda can’t stay in Kiel, she has no professorship there.
        She has one in Frankfurt since 2010:

        Click to access CV_Fulda_Simone_D.pdf

        I presume she is on leave from Frankfurt to rectorship in Kiel.
        Meaning she has the right to return to Frankfurt.
        The Goethe University of Frankfurt refused communication with me.
        Well, they will spend the next several years talking to Fulda about her fake gels.
        https://pubpeer.com/publications/C149B9E7DF00E8320192023D4D58F7

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        ” Hinsichtlich der Vorwürfe zur angeblichen Datenmanipulation, die aktuell gegenüber Simone Fulda sowie Wissenschaftlern und Wissenschaftlerinnen anderer Forschungseinrichtungen gestellt werden, gilt weiterhin die Unschuldsvermutung. Diese Vorwürfe werden derzeit sorgfältig nach Richtlinien guter wissenschaftlicher Praxis durch die zuständigen Einrichtungen geprüft.“”
        https://www.uni-kiel.de/de/detailansicht/news/021-praesidentin-der-cau-stellt-ihr-amt-zur-verfuegung
        The data in Fulda’s papers is provenly fake.
        When you catch me selling stolen electronics online, of course the presumption of innocence will apply to me also, and I will deny that those goods were stolen and that I had anything to do with all that.

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        Leonid Schneider

        February 10, 2024

        “The Goethe University of Frankfurt refused communication with me.Well, they will spend the next several years talking to Fulda about her fake gels.”

        The Frankfurt Cancer Center is part of the Goethe University of Frankfurt, see the address.

        Homepage • Frankfurt Cancer Institute (fci.health)

        Florian Greten • Frankfurt Cancer Institute (fci.health)

        Goethe University of Frankfurt should talk to Florian Greten about his gels

        Floian’s gels PubPeer – Search publications and join the conversation.

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Greten mentioned here.

        AACR conjures undead Count Fakula Michael Karin


        Exactly 2 years ago the university’s Commission for research misconduct announced to me to investigate.

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        Just received this from Dr. Christiane Kamardi, head of the Committee for research misconduct at Goethe University Frankfurt:
        “We would like to take this opportunity to inform you that this commission also examined in detail the allegations you made against Prof. Greten on February 6, 2022 and decided by resolution of December 5, 2022 that there was no evident clues for data manipulation/scientific misconduct, which is why formal proceedings were not opened against Prof. Greten.”

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        https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/bildung/nach-manipulationsvorwuerfen-kieler-uni-praesidentin-simone-fulda-tritt-zurueck-a-7db7c94a-78fe-4a95-9e50-3abfde95a7a0

        Manipulationsvorwürfe

        Kieler Unipräsidentin tritt zurück   

        Simone Fulda soll Daten manipuliert haben, sie weist den Vorwurf eines Wissenschaftsblogs entschieden zurück. Aus Verantwortung für die Uni Kiel gebe sie ihren Posten als Präsidentin »schweren Herzens« ab.11.02.2024, 11.52 Uhr

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        Still the dpa release. Only Kieler Nachrichten and NDR are actually investigating.

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  26. XY Z's avatar

    Well done, Leonid. Thanks a lot. Such disgusting stuff is a direct attack on the trust in the scientific system. Unbearable.

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  27. Zebedee's avatar

    “Debatin used to be Dean of the Medical Faculty and Vice-President for Medicine of the University of Ulm…”

    Debatin still is Vice-President of Ulm University according to his official website.

    Profile of Prof. Klaus-Michael Debatin | Universitätsklinikum Ulm (uniklinik-ulm.de)

    Functions in Committees (Selection)

    • Since 2015: Vice President of Ulm University

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      Younger woman, Simone Fulda, resigned; older man, Klaus-Michael Debatin still in all his posts.

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      After I asked Ulm university to clarify, the website was rapidly changed:
      https://www.uniklinik-ulm.de/kinder-und-jugendmedizin/team/prof-dr-med-klaus-michael-debatin.html
      “2010 – 2014 sowie 2015 – 2021 Vizepräsident für Medizin bzw. für Kooperationen der Universität Ulm”

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        That’s it. That’s the University of Ulm’s response to a serious amount and degree of problematic data: adding and end date to a position within the university.

        Schleswig-Holstein, the state where Kiel University is, has a higher standard than Baden-Württemberg, the state where the University of Ulm is. Both universities come under the jurisdiction of their respective state governments.

        What we can say so far?

        Hats off to Karin Prien, education minister for Schleswig-Holstein, who diplomatically signalled to Simone Fulda, President of Kiel University, that she should resign! Karin Prien is a trained lawyer and must have looked at the evidence, it at least obtained advice from those qualified.

        Karin Prien, a future Chancellor candidate?

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      I nominate Richard G Pestell as the next President of Kiel University. He has at least an equal stature to Simone Fulda when it comes to cancerous data, and has an impressive record when it comes to managing cancer research departments of well-known U.S. universities, obtaining grant money, etc.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Pestell

      Richard Pestell’s data.

      https://pubpeer.com/search?q=Pestell

      Please bear in mind that the members of the presidential search committee at Kiel University should check each applicant’s data as a first step.

      It would be interesting to hear other people’s opinions and nominations for the President of Kiel University.

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      My nomination is Michael Karin: an admirable, highly important person who has long proven that he can bring tons of money in – and, much more important, he would simply be untouchable in Germany, no matter what he does! Just imagine: not a single critical word from a “Wissenschaftsminister(in)” – the dream of any University! Guaranteeing best US-connections, he could continue and optimize Fuldas previous activities for the German-Israeli research cooperation of the DFG (remember: Trump to come!). Our young researchers should learn all this very early: the best “Tatsachengrundlage” in german science is something with “USA, USA” or “Israel, Israel” in your CV. -Eh, results, data? Yes, comes second.

      “West is best, and might is right” (Killing Joke, “America”)

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        They can’t pay Karin the salaries he is used to get in USA…

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        Hmmm… ok, could be a problem… but on the other hand, you gave some hint to a Scholz-guy in a previous comment… a name firmly associated with 100 billion Euros, at least in my mind… so, I still think University of Kiel should check this option!

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    • Leonid Schneider's avatar

      FAZ got everything exactly right.
      Turns out, Fulda resigned merely over the failure of the 3 grant applications. There never was anything else. Nothing at all worth mentioning.
      Read FAZ. Proper quality journalism by real experts.
      https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/hat-die-praesidentin-in-ihrer-frueheren-forschungstaetigkeit-daten-manipuliert-19514533.html

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      NMH, the failed scientist and incel

      I nominate Irina Stancheva. Good at cooking research and pottery.

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  28. Tobias's avatar

    Fulda resigned today. Her CV that is linked in the article got changed today, too, presumably to reflect that.

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  29. Sanni's avatar

    Nicht sehr ausgewogen, aber die Abläufe an der CAU Kiel in der Causa Fulda ausführlich nachzeichnend: https://www.jmwiarda.de/2024/02/11/nach-drei-tagen-kam-der-r%C3%BCcktritt/

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  30. Zebedee's avatar

    Simone Fulda should kiss Patrizia Agostinis on both cheeks.

    If it were not for Patrizia Agostinis Simone Fulda would still be President of Kiel University.

    PubPeer – NF-κB contributes to Smac mimetic-conferred protection from…

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  31. Zebedee's avatar

    This article is doing well in the hit parade. I wonder what is going on.

    I doubt that anything much will happen because the German system is very protective of the  higher-ups when they have committed scientific misconduct. Laws which suppress fair comments about scientific data because the truth might damage somebody’s reputation. Reality any day over reputation!

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      A very serious intelligence failure on the part of the German system.

      Simone Fulda and Klaus-Michael Debatin got to the very heart of the German system undetected, making rules to suit themselves.

      It is now far too much of an embarrassment for the German system to admit its total intelligence failure and will never find against Simone Fulda and Klaus-Michael Debatin. All we can expected is total silence. The German system falls for the pompous and virtue-signalling fraudsters every time.

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  32. gaga's avatar

    Now it is clear that all accusations against Fulda with respect of frauds were wrong:

    https://archive.ph/iCJVs#selection-2445.208-2445.219

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    • Leonid Schneider's avatar

      As I predicted. I am disappointed that Spiegel merely paints me as a criminal anti-science troll from Ukraine. Why not Bandera -Nazi…

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      That does not appear to be true. The data are still problematic and difficult t o explain away. It’s about the data.

      Fulda should sue the University of Kiel, from which she resigned as president (still a professor there), to have her position as president restored. That will bring everything to a head. Make an international laughing stock of German academia. The whole system will go tits up! Perhaps with a bit of U.S. sanctioned poking of Germany by Russia. After 12:00 on the 20th January 2025 the U.S. will no longer be Germany’s friend.

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  33. Palosalto's avatar

    She was acquitted

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    • Zebedee's avatar

      More damage to Goethe-Universität Frankfurt.

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      • Multiplex's avatar

        In deed. Goethe-University has a most shameful background of mishandling bad “science”.

        For example, in 2018 they celebrated themselves for the 1968 German student movement, and how cool they were, and how important. But they kept silent about horrible affairs of this time, especially the career of “Professor” Hans Fleischhauer, a full scale Nazi who was never held responsible for his crimes.

        And in a way, they even surpassed themselves by ignoring countless complaints about “Professor” Reiner Protsch, scandal-“anthropologist” just as Fleischhauer was.

        There is a simple test of how honest this university is about insane mistakes of the past: just ask their press office about their “appendix to press release no.38, February 17th, 2005”. It was about the Protsch case, and should be a public statement, accessible for all.

        I know someone who asked for it, more than once – they didn’t reply. But wait, now we have these SPIEGEL guys, Silke Fokken and Armin Himmelrath! May be they can ask for us? Because we are so unimportant and clueless, but they aren’t?

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      • Leonid Schneider's avatar

        I seem to feed an entire lawyers industry. Imagine how much two certain clowns pay for media coverage like this. Spiegel and such elite journalists ain’t cheap.
        Frankfurt University took the easy way out. Rest assured Kiel University is being sued by Fulda, Ulm is dealing with elite lawyers of both Fulda and Debatin.
        Frankfurt University previously admitted to me that Fulda’s professorship there wasn’t resting, but expired. Now they only looked into her Frankfurt papers, which are a tiny fraction, found fake stuff and declared conclusions unaffected. No lawsuits. Everyone happy.
        Especially the lawyers.

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    Zebedee

    Kiel: Schriftliche Rüge für Ex-Unipräsidentin Simone Fulda. Kiel: Written reprimand for former university president Simone Fulda Kiel: Schriftliche Rüge für Ex-Unipräsidentin Simone Fulda | ndr.de

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