Academic Publishing COVID-19 Medicine

Zelenko and Raoult fall in each other’s arms

The marriage of love between Didier Raoult and Vovka Zelenko is now official. It was ordained by the International Society for Microbial Chemotherapy. No COVID-19 restrictions apply, and there's enough chloroquine for everyone.

I hoped I would never have to write about that ridiculous quack Vovka Zelenko. But three days ago, he published his “clinical trial” about the COVID-19 curing power of hydroxychloroquine in a peer-reviewed journal. An Elsevier journal, issued by the International Society for Microbial Chemotherapy (ISAC), whose chief editor is a human sockpuppet of the chloroquine guru Didier Raoult. The paper appeared in a special collection edited by Raoult plus the society’s past president, they handled the “peer review”. While the society’s current president denounces me as some kind of enemy of science and declares to be proud to not have succumbed to pressure to retract Raoult’s own paper which in March 2020 unleashed the chloroquine disaster worldwide and catapulted Zelenko into Trump’s inner circle. While both coauthors of Zelenko’s paper are Germans, one of them is affiliated with the University Clinic of Düsseldorf where I did PhD.

So I have to write about this.

The masterpiece.

First, who is Vovka Zelenko? Like myself, Zelenko is a Jewish immigrant from Kiev (or Kyiv, capital of Ukraine), we are even of similar age. He grew up as Vladimir (or Vovka) and now calls himself Ze’ev in Hebrew because he wants to be like Jabotinsky or something, but with a long bushy beard. I became a criminal Nazi troll in Germany, while Zelenko became nothing less but the Messiah who saved not just all Jews of his New York village, but the entire humanity from the coronavirus. How?

The village doctor from the Jewish orthodox community of Kiryas Joel early on latched onto Raoult’s chloroquine bandwagon. Zelenko’s first public announcement appeared on 23 March 2020, right after Raoult’s seminal paper was published, specifically referencing the director of IHU Marseille:

I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections.

You see, Vovka is no-one’s fool, this is why he adjusted the scam to make the mineral Zinc the magic COVID-19 fighting molecule, with hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and azithromycine as a kind of adjuvant. The advantage is that if you run out of the two prescription drugs, you can always buy zinc supplements in every supermarket. Raoult himself never included zinc in his own COVID-19 scam (only HCQ and the antibiotic azithromycin), so in principle their COVID-19 cures should be incompatible. And yet the two men became ardent lovers, maybe because they have a common goal of trolling the world during a pandemic while playing doctor.

Update: a reader shared a (presumably COVID-19) prescription by an IHU doctor dated 9 September 2020, where Zinc is included with HCQ and Azithromycin. Seems Raoult already adapted The Zelenko Protocol!

Zelenko is also a rabid fan of Donald Trump whom he probably worships more than Hashem. By bowing to his new God, Vovka achieved a bizarre status of a chloroquine prophet. His March announcement was addressed to Trump, and right on cue Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani started to advertise for Zelenko on social media. Trump himself referred to Zelenko when publicly announcing to be preventively taking HCQ (but later on, when Trump did catch COVID-19 eventually, no hydroxychloroquine was deployed to treat the president).

The connection to the Imperial Wizard in the White House and his clique of fascists was made via the chloroquine-middleman and cryptocurrency trader James Todaro (here their joint manifesto). Todaro (who claims to be a doctor, but dropped out from medical training and never had a proper medical licence) previously also fixed Trump with Raoult’s study, and later on joined other demented quacks like Stella “Demon Sperm” Imannuel in the notorious TV stunt called Doctors at Frontlines. But I digress.

In May 2020, Zelenko, who claimed to have treated his entire village with his COVID-19 medicine, departed from Kiryas Joel, accusing village elders of killing Jews by allowing magefah (the plague) in. He made a video, where:

Zelenko said that he wanted to dispel rumors that his decision to leave had anything to do with a disagreement with his current employer, CareStier Health, where he is the medical director.”

Maybe Zelenko was not entirely honest. The day after Vovka went public with his chloroquine revelations, there appeared this open letter, dated 24 March 2020, by the Kiryas Joel office of emergency management:

“We the undersigned institutions strongly believe that the predictions presented by Dr. Zelenko have been proven false and are not supported by the overall medical establishment, specifically in his wild conclusions as to the spread of the virus in our community.”

Zelenko’s autobiography. From looney to Messiah?

Turned out the infections were prevented by the local lockdown measurements, and not by Vovka’s miracle cure of zinc and chloroquine.

Vanity Fair (who seem to have a much better investigative medical journalism than “serious” newspapers, they also originally exposed Paolo Macchiarini) brought in late May, on the occasion of Vovka’s exodus from Kiryas Joel, an amazing scoop on how Zelenko became Trump’s favourite. We learn that on 5 April 2020, just one week after the FDA issued under Trump’s pressure an Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine, the Trump-appointed FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn phoned Zelenko:

“Dr. Hahn found time that afternoon to carry out an unusual mission. He contacted an obscure family practitioner in Monroe, New York, with whom he had never before been in touch, to ask if the doctor had “time for a quick call.” Once on the phone with Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, Hahn posed a question: How could he—the commissioner of a federal health agency with a $5.7 billion annual budget and the responsibility to safeguard the nation’s drugs, medical devices, and food supply—be of help?”

Hahn then helped to organise a clinical trial with Zelenko’s COVID-19 medicine, and even supplied hydroxychloroquine from the Strategic National Stockpile at FEMA:

“Two days after that first phone call, in a series of text messages obtained by Vanity Fair, Zelenko returned to Hahn for help setting up a clinical trial of some 750 outpatients at St. Francis Hospital in Roslyn, New York.”

Hahn continued assisting Zelenko, also Guiliani and Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, were involved. Vovka was personally introduced by Hahn to Patricia Flatley Brennan, director of the National Library of Medicine, which supervises the website. Vovka the village quack was advised how to register his clinical trial. Another character Zelenko was connected to, was Jerome Corsi, “a right-wing conspiracy theorist“. Big plans were made, and then shit happened.

“In late April, Corsi was planning a promotional campaign for a telemedicine platform on his website,, that enabled doctors to conduct video consultations with patients and directly prescribe them hydroxychloroquine and other drugs. According to Corsi’s marketing materials, Dr. Zelenko would serve as the program’s medical director.

But on April 20, Corsi accidentally emailed those marketing plans not to Zelenko but to Aaron Zelinsky, a U.S. prosecutor who’d worked on the Mueller investigation—a mishap first reported by the Washington Post. Zelinsky, now spearheading a COVID-19 fraud-fighting task force out of the Maryland U.S. Attorney’s Office, scrutinized the materials and zeroed in on Corsi’s claim that “Zelenko has an FDA approved randomized test of HCQ under-way.” No such trial was listed on, raising the prospect of fraud.”

The trial was then quickly registered on Presumably it never took place though (good for patients!), because Zelenko published something else instead: a study of his Kiryas Joel patients treated “between March 18, 2020 and May 14, 2020”. Which brings us to the new paper in Raoult’s journal.

It first appeared on 30 June 2020 as a self-published preprint on DropBox, and then published on the occasionally malfunctioning website

And now Raoult and his ISAC journal published his paper:

Roland Derwand , Martin Scholz , Vladimir Zelenko COVID-19 outpatients – early risk-stratified treatment with zinc plus low dose hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin: a retrospective case series study International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (2020) doi: 10.1016/j.ijantimicag.2020.106214

I am not going to discuss the “science” in this “study”, other much more competent people wasted enough time debunking Zelenko’s Kiryas Joel bullshit already. Like Florian Gouthière who in April 2020 debunked Zelenko’s bullshit study in Liberation:

The rumor that more than 600 New Yorkers have been cured with hydroxychloroquine is false in more than one way. According to the doctor supposed to have carried out this treatment, the treatment in question was only given to 350 people who had mild and moderate symptoms. While no complications were noted in the small number of people treated for the first four days, hospitalizations were recorded the following week. The data allowing to objectify the real contribution of the treatment to the evolution of the state of health of the patients have not yet been made public.

Here, I rather want to use this occasion to show you how screwed up science, academia and learned societies are, who seem to be fiddling while the world is burning. Academics rarely feel responsible for what their deeds cause in the real world outside, there is no such thing as fraud, quackery or lies if it was committed via peer reviewed literature. Everything is a scientific debate among respectable peers in this community, even deaths on a hundreds of thousands scale in a pandemic.

But then, how did this awful garbage get published in a peer reviewed society-run journal? Well, there is a story behind it.

First of all, the Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (which is published by the International Society for Microbial Chemotherapy (ISAC) and Elsevier), is Raoult’s subordinate at the IHU Marseille and ISAC board member, Jean-Marc Rolain. And Raoult himself was one of the two handling editors of that paper. The other editor was Po-Ren Hsueh, professor at the National Taiwan University and previous ISAC President and current board member of the society. Hsueh declared in April 2020 that HCQ and azithromycine have shown “excellent clinical efficacy on Chinese COVID-19 patients“. The collection “COVID-19 Therapeutic and Prevention“, in which Zelenko’s paper appeared, is full of studies endorsing HCQ and azithromycin.

Now you surely recall that the chloroquine shitshow originally started on 20 March 2020 with Raoult’s own paper in that same journal, Gautret et al 2020, which was debunked by Elisabeth Bik and which I discussed in this popular post here. That paper famously was peer reviewed in a matter of literally hours. As the world slid into a pandemic disaster, voices were raised about what the actual f**k was ISAC thinking, to allow that.

On 3 April, ISAC issued a statement, which they later deleted and eventually reinstalled:

“ISAC shares the concerns regarding the above article published recently in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (IJAA). The ISAC Board believes the article does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.”

Back then, I contacted the society’s president Andreas Voss, about whether Raoult’s paper will be retracted. Voss wrote to me on 5 April, assuring that Raoult’s paper received “thorough review” as per “standard“, speedy as it may be. He also added regarding the retraction question:

ISAC is not the publisher. That is Elsevier and as according to them all rules and industry standards were followed a retraction is not what they consider“.

It does sound like ISAC asked Elsevier to retract the paper and evil Elsevier refused, right? Turns out, this time it was not Elsevier’s fault at all. The next day, Voss sounded like science has spoken on chloroquine (typos his):

Do people on the blog know that chloroquine is an effective drug in a careful selection of COVID-19 and being part of many nationl and international guidelines? If I see some of the comments I have the feeling that some don’t know that.

Voss then clarified that it all was his personal opinion and not that of ISAC, and added, highlights his:

We have very strict indication for its use and it is ONLY in admitted patients, […] With little to no choice left and with some evidence that it might help, what will you do in your patient?
What you hear me say is that I am glad that people watch out that science stays what it has to be, but make sure that you not withholding one of the few options to a selected group of patients who would have profit from it.  With people under pressure rate decisions are taken, such as completely taking away the choice of using chloroquine in the right situation and patient.

Well, that was in early April 2020, but surely now, in October 2020, Voss will agree that enough clinical studies, including the large-scale double blinded randomised controlled clinical trials Solidarity and Recovery, and the WHO opinion have sufficiently proven that HCQ does not work? Do ISAC members still treat their patients with HCQ? Voss refused communication, so we can’t know.

Maybe Voss and his ISAC colleagues are still praying in the church of chloroquine. How else to explain Zelenko’s paper which Raoult and former society president Hsueh published there? So before the communication ended, I wrote to Voss again, and got some angry tirades back. Typos his:

You know science gets fun one people only read and analyse in one direction like you do. At least have a look at what we as a society say and publish. If you believe in on-directional science over (all is okay as Ling as it supports your opinion) than I can’t help it.

Voss also told me never to write to him, but later on added when asked again to comment on Zelenko’s paper, typos his:

ISAC wrote nothing that would support teh paper you mentioned.  You wanted the other paper to be retracted and we preferred a discussion and people actually what was wrong with it.  How you can conclude different is unexplainable to me and with that go ahead, write what you want to hear instead of actually what ISAC expressed.No way I can stop you in. that except, finishing ths

So, that hinted retraction request ISAC allegedly made in April? They never asked Elsevier to retract Raoult’s paper, in fact they are very happy about the scientific debate (meaning, the journal-impact-factor-boosting citations) it earned them. And this is also why ISAC published Zelenko’s paper now, it will bring citations and raise the impact factor further. And it is Schneider who is the enemy of science and humanity, while Dr Zelenko is a valuable scientific peer whose excellent research on COVID-19 just passed the thorough peer review at IJAA.

Nobody at ISAC apparently gives a toss about the pandemic, they have other preferences. Academic collegiality and publishing revenue are more important than human lives. Definitely don’t bother complaining to Elsevier.

Zelenko himself issued a press release about his new paper, on his own website “The Internet Protocol“. Titled:

“Groundbreaking Study Accepted for Publication by The International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents”

Vovka announced “that the paper can now be used in clinical practice” because it “can save the lives of millions of people suffering from COVID-19” and mentioned:

“Dr. Zelenko’s position and his treatment plan have been the subject of criticism. But many people supported the doctor’s position. For instance, an infectious disease doctor David Boulware and doctors from Harvard and Yale Medical Schools.”

I wonder if David Boulware will agree, because his own randomized controlled clinical trial showed that HCQ does NOT work at all, and he made it perfectly clear on every occasion. The Yale University distanced itself from the noxious HCQ proselytizing of their professor Harvey Risch. The other authority named, George Carr Fareed is NOT affiliated with Harvard (here merely got his medical degree there), in fact Fareed seems to be yet another village doctor who privately treats patients with the “Zelenko Protocol”.

The announcement also introduces the two coauthors of the “Zelenko Protocol”:

Drs. Derwand and Scholz were the first to draw attention to “The Zelenko Protocol” in their published hypothesis paper about the importance of combining zinc with hydroxychloroquine as a method for treating COVID-19.

Let’s meet the authors of that paper from September 2020, in Elsevier journal Medical Hypotheses (much frequented by quacks, charlatans and loonies).

First, there is Roland Derwand, Munich-based local Head of Medical affairs at Alexion Pharmaceuticals. His employer is apparently perfectly happy to be associated with the HCQW0RKS movement, the professional affiliation appeared on both preprint and the newly published “peer reviewed” paper. That despite Derwand’s declaration that his collaboration with Zelenko was of “private” nature, without involvement of Alexion Pharma:

Dear Mrs Schneider, thank you very much for your tweet. My initiative and engagement in this kind of honorary COVID-19 research has been private. Let me know if you have any question and many thanks for supporting us. KR, Roland Derwand

Followed by:

The corresponding author of the ISAC-approved paper in IJAA is Martin Scholz, who is presented in a press release (where all 3 authors are quoted regarding their HCQ study) as “an independent consultant and adjunct professor for experimental medicine at Heinrich Heine University, Düsseldorf, Germany“. Here a German version of that press release on Zelenko’s “Internet Protocol”, if you need it.

But an earlier press release of that university (now for some reason deleted) mentioned that Scholz is supposed to hold another adjunct professorship at the Goethe University in Frankfurt. It is not clear what happened to that affiliation, also in Düsseldorf Scholz’ last research grant ended in 2008. The Munich-based company Leukocare which Scholz has founded in 2001, lost him as executive board member in 2018. Bet they are sad now, what with Profesor Scholz saving the world from COVID-19, but without the Leukocare affiliation.

What incredible luck for the University Clinic Düsseldorf, where the humble yours truly did his PhD, not knowing that the future saviour of the world Professor Scholz was working on the same campus at the same time. Below you see radiant Professor Scholz with the Rector Michael Piper and the medical Dean Joachim Windolf of the Heinrich Heine University of Düsseldorf. Little did the two leaders know that just 9 years later, their adjunct professor will rescue the world from COVID-19 using the “Zelenko Protocol”. And what great honour, the university clinic is generously allowed to serve as Professor Scholz’ affiliation on his new paper with Zelenko and Derwand in Raoult’s journal!

Press release backup here.

Raoult has not yet tweeted about the new paper by Zelenko, Scholz and Derwand which he accepted in his own journal. Neither did ISAC issue a celebratory press release. Hopefully soon?

Update 1.11.2020

Dr Vovka Zelenko himself commented under this article:

Dr Schneider has never reached out to me. We have never spoken. He attacks my faith in G-d and accuses me of worshiping Trump. He also uses a demeaning Russian nick name “vovka” to refer to me instead of my Hebrew name Zev or Vladimir. My paper has been peer reviewed and published. It has been reviewed by top scientists in the world. Most consider the results of the paper significant and encourage further research. My team has treated thousands of patients since March with excellent results, perhaps the best in the world.
I’m not sure what is bothering Dr. Schneider but he seems like a bitter little man who is looking for relevance and publicity at the expense of denigrating others.
My focus continues to be on trying save lives and not debate with small people.

Update 23.12.2020

In case you wonder why Vovka’s tweets above don’t load:


If you are interested to support my work, you can leave here a small tip of $5. Or several of small tips, just increase the amount as you like (2x=€10; 5x=€25). I want to buy all the zinc I can get.


60 comments on “Zelenko and Raoult fall in each other’s arms

  1. We have 155 studies.

    92 peer reviewed.

    Immense majority positive.

    I would like to see a text from you calling one by one a quack.

    Or would that be unreal?


  2. theasdgamer

    Your entire article is comprised of ad hominems. So compelling! lol

    Liked by 1 person

    • PressToDigitate

      It is. Its amazing that Mr. Schneider can take such an arrogant, smarmy attitude with no relevant data in support of his argument whatsoever. By Contrast, Dr. Zelenko’s treatment has been affirmed now by thousands of patients it has protected and/or saved, apparently without any significant negative consequences. Sadly, the same cannot be said for the useless and harmful ‘conventional’ treatments that Mr. Schneider and his ilk have foisted on the public. We have 6,000,000 dead to show for that.


      • How wrong you are. Oleandrin cured millions already from covid and prevented infection in many millions more. But you rather chase your Big Pharma sponsored chloroquine cure. Shame.


  3. Oh, wait, you actually referenced Boulware. lol But you are unaware of Watanabe? Ooopsie.


    • Very aware. Your Watanabe is too dumb to be discussed. Ooopsie.


      • I’ll just have to disagree. Watanabe is an actual statistician–unlike you. And I’ve done my fair share of numbers…physics, you know. I’ll give you credit for marvelous use of logical fallacies and empty rhetoric, though.


      • You mean Watanabe is The Actual Statistician? As opposed to fake statistitians of the Boulware gang (all bribed by Gilead with cocaine and prostitutes)?
        Get off my site, go play some computer game, numbers man.


    • Daniel Ansari

      This stuff is all new to me as of the other day, so please excuse me for jumping in and asking an innocent question. How is the Marcio Watanabe (a Brazilian) analysis invalid? I couldn’t find any negative comments about him or the analysis. I saw you had a Twitter discussion about a different (Japanese) Watanabe in 2017.


      • Beginning early in the pandemic Dr. Brian Tyson saw over 17,000 patients in El Centro near the California border with Mexico, risk stratified 1,900 COVID+ elderly and high-risk patients 11 months old to 90 years old for treatment, with 0 deaths and 1 hospitalization of 4 days.


      • Hello “brian” (presumably you are Dr Brian Tyson.
        When will you publish your study? It’s been 18 months now…


  4. Hey Leonid, can you comment largest study solidarity/recovery protocol where they used 2Grams!! of HCQ in first 12 hr, oh and check LD50 while at it… nah, you’re lazy and deceitful here is meta that separates late crap (you know stuff that you love to cherry pick to fit your “argument”)


  5. How many people did Leonid KILL so far…


  6. Leonid Schneider: your article is rude, disrespectful and vicious.
    I came to conclusion that you have some personal vendetta against
    Dr Z. Zelenko. You are a mean and ugly person. !
    Who gave you a right to call people, who legitimately question your conclusions, “morons”?
    I think it is you who is a moron!

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  7. Dr Schneider has never reached out to me. We have never spoken. He attacks my faith in G-d and accuses me of worshiping Trump. He also uses a demeaning Russian nick name “vovka” to refer to me instead of my Hebrew name Zev or Vladimir. My paper has been peer reviewed and published. It has been reviewed by top scientists in the world. Most consider the results of the paper significant and encourage further research. My team has treated thousands of patients since March with excellent results, perhaps the best in the world.
    I’m not sure what is bothering Dr. Schneider but he seems like a bitter little man who is looking for relevance and publicity at the expense of denigrating others.
    My focus continues to be on trying save lives and not debate with small people.


    • Many thanks for your comment, Dr Zelenko. You write:
      “My paper has been peer reviewed and published. It has been reviewed by top scientists in the world. Most consider the results of the paper significant and encourage further research.
      Were they all employed at IHU Marseille?
      And it’s not “my paper”, it’s “our paper”. You have two coauthors, one of them in fact is the corresponding author 😉


    • Dr. Z: “[P]eer reviewed and published” is the defense of a charlatan. Scientific rigor is what seems to be missing from your claims.

      Not only has Leonid detailed the conflict of interest inherent in this journal’s editorial board (they would be fired if they rejected papers like yours), but he has supported his opinion that you are a quack with links to credible evidence that your varied claims do not stand up to the slightest scrutiny (scientific or otherwise). No one should take you seriously.

      As to your faith, I can only say that, in my opinion, grifters that operate behind a veil of piety deserve a very special place in the afterworld.🔥 /s


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  9. Jerry Ricks

    The emotional tone of the article aside, what strikes me is this part: “The Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (which is published by the International Society for Microbial Chemotherapy (ISAC) and Elsevier), is Raoult’s subordinate at the IHU Marseille and ISAC board member, Jean-Marc Rolain. And Raoult himself was one of the two handling editors of that paper.”

    If that is true, then this paper looks like an obvious case of scientific misconduct, if not outright scientific frau to me.


    • Look at the screenshot again, top right corner

      Emotional, why? Sarcasm is not an emotion, look it up.


      • Jerry Ricks

        Leonid, I had already read the paper by Derwand, Sholz and Zelenko, and I didn’t care for it. I have been looking for other people’s criticisms of the paper and yours was the first one I found. I do not disagree with you; I am just responding to complaints about the tone of your article in the replies here. Sticking up for you is what I was doing.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Thanks Jerry. Alex Samuel wrote to all editorial board members of IJAA. None replied. Nobody cares.


  10. Jacob Friedman

    This is like bickering children.
    Quite childish.

    The fact remains that after Tens of thousands of patients globally (including countless of the sick and elderly) nobody can find a single instance, a single case, where the simple HCQ-protocol was followed and the patient died.
    Not a single one!

    Conversely, every instance and every study or trial that resulted in failure (e.g. deaths) has omitted/neglected one or more of the simple protocol steps.
    Usually, they left out the (humble but vital) Zinc. (including the references in this article.)

    And frequently the protocol was administered too late, long after the initial 5 – 7 days of symptoms.

    Personally, over the recent few months, i have invested over 100 hours researching online very numerous cases and reports mentioning HCQ. (Encompassing tens of thousands of individuals, via medical professional’s and personal accounts.)

    The findings are consistent, without exception;

    1) The failures did not follow the simple protocol.
    2) And those that did follow it, never ended with death.

    Go ahead, search yourself.
    Mocking and belittling won’t change the facts.

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    • Jacob Friedman

      I forgot to mention that i also interviewed a number of doctors.

      And i would like to add that i have no conflict-of-interest or bias.
      It’s just that, for the life of me, i cannot find a single case (out of many many thousands) where the HCQ-protocol (aka “Zelenko protocol”) failed.

      That’s what i would call “Beyond reasonable doubt”.


    • So, you are saying that Zelenko did not follow the Zelenko protocol? After all, one patient died…and in a group of some 150 patients of which the vast majority was younger than 70, that’s a significant mortality rate!


  11. erikvandenboom

    Just curious: are Peter McCullough, Brian Tyson and Thomas Borody also cheaters. If so, can you show us some evidence?


  12. Carl Hanson

    In the Boulware referenced trial, no zinc was used rendering the trial nonsensical.
    HCQ is an ionophore that enables zinc to penetrate infected cells.
    HCQ is the gun … Zinc is the bullet.
    One without the other is useless.
    At the time of that trial, the trial principals should have know that.
    They are exceptionally incompetent … or deliberately structured a meaningless trial.

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    • Leonard E Berg

      I agree Carl, their arguments are childish and hollow & what do they offer for early treatment? To be honest, I’ve never read such shallow logic. I thank the Lord for Dr. Zelenko. I pray there will be a doctor who will be willing to prescribe this protocol if it should be needed.


  13. ThorOdinson

    There are two questions:
    1) Is HCQ safe?
    2) Is HCQ effective against COVID-19?

    To the first question, HCQ has been used on a daily basis by millions of people for 70 years. It is not an unknown new drug. It is unquestionably safe in low doses for the vast majority of the population. “Safer than Tylenol” as put by one MD who is actually using it to treat her patients.

    To the second, it apparently depends on dosage, how early it is used after symptom onset, and if it is partnered with Zinc. The purpose of Dr Zelenko’s protocol is to PREVENT hospitalization and the inflammatory phase of the virus by treating high-risk patients are early as possible.

    He called this “battlefield medicine”. There is no time for 17 Randomized Control Trials, and it would be unethical to assign high-risk patients to a control group given a placebo. Thus, it is difficult to measure what did NOT happen as a result of his protocol: Fewer severe cases, fewer hospitalizations, and fewer deaths.

    Many doctors and thousands of patients, my 85 yr old father included, are grateful for his medical wisdom and personal bravery in weathering the withering criticisms of ankle-biters with an agenda, whether it be shills for Big Pharma and Big Government, or bitter, mean-spirited personal attacks from fellow immigrants from Kiev.

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  15. You say “I am not going to discuss the “science” in this “study”, other much more competent people wasted enough time debunking Zelenko’s Kiryas Joel bullshit already”. But science is the ONLY thing that matters in this day and age. You have desperately tried to put together an article to discredit Zelenko by using inflammatory and leading words. Most of the naive uninformed people will swallow your bullshit but not me. Try debunking him using his own studies and you will fail. You and those like you are responsible for killing 100’s of thousands of people. You should be ashamed of yourself. I assume your “spam filter” will conveniently remove this comment.


  16. Seems as though my comment made it through. Therefore I would like to add that this seems like a clear cut case of penis envy.


  17. What a horrible article by Schneider. It does nothing to help advance science or help humanity in any way
    find ways to help human beings reduce risks in case of covid infection.


    • Other than identifying charlatans who should be ignored, not revered, by the public.


      • If you are interested in identifying charlantans, have a look to Dr Fauci.
        And it woud be great if the “super debunker in chief” Schneider could use his great skills to proove if the wonderfull vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are so effective and secure as claimed by nobody else than Pfizer and Moderna!


      • Dear “Olegna”!
        The “super debunker in chief” Schneider:
        1. Brought a very critical article about Moderna’s founder Kenneth Chien ages ago:
        2. Questioned the efficiency of Moderna, BionTech and CureVac mRNA vaccines many times on Twitter (feel free to check), and in this article:
        3. Will take the vaccine when it’s his turn, although preferably that of Pfizer/BionTech rather than that by Moderna. I have no way of checking the vaccine efficiency (and they might indeed not work as promised), but at least they proved safe and were approved by EMA (for now just the Pfizer/BionTech vaccine), an authority I trust.
        4. Will still wear mask and observe social distancing even after vaccinated until health authorities deem it safe to stop.
        5. Will keep telling all Fauci-hating covidiots like yourself to f*** off.
        Off you f***.


      • “I have no way of checking the vaccine efficiency (and they might indeed not work as promised), but at least they proved safe and were approved by EMA…”
        This is false because the “vaccines” named will not be proven safe until 2-5 years down the road. I don’t know what’s up with the EMA, but this is how the FDA puts it: “”8.4.Unknown Risks/Data Gaps”
        “Vaccine-enhanced disease Available data do not indicate a risk of vaccine-enhanced disease, and conversely suggest effectiveness against severe disease within the available follow-up period. However, risk of vaccine-enhanced disease over time, potentially associated with waning immunity, remains unknown and needs to be evaluated further in ongoing clinical trials and in observational studies that could be conducted following authorization and/or licensure.”
        So good luck with your pathogenic priming/enhanced immune response/antibody dependent enhancement.
        All because you chose to live in fear, while continuing to disbelieve THE REALITY of the up to 99-100% effectiveness of multi-drug/supplement early treatment protocols for COVID-19, that have been demonstrated to have been that effective ever since March of 2020.


  18. privietsaintpetersbourg

    This article is written by someone either really frustrated and incompetent or really well-paid
    I do not see any other possibility

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  19. Steve McLinden

    Now, the quacks at the American Medical Association are jumping on the hydroxychloroquine band wagon!



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